Check out this exclusive interview with six-time NY Times bestselling author, lecturer, and featured speaker of the upcoming Women’s Wellness Conference™, Marianne Williamson, and discover:
- Marianne Williamson’s message of sisterhood and the crucial importance of women supporting other women in this modern age.
- The shocking differences between men and women in the workplace and Marianne’s special approach to positive social activism.
- The deeper causes (and what we can do to fix them) behind the stranglehold multi-national corporations have on our food supply and our political system.
Transcript of ” Living an Empowered Life Part 2″
David “Avocado” Wolfe (DW): Now, you’ve been very successful. You’ve maintained a prominent voice. You’ve been just an amazing woman for so many years. I’m sure our listeners right now would want to know, what are some of those guiding principals that help you to stay balanced, stay away from fear, stay in the heart space? Can you give us a sneak peak, maybe three of those things, that just guide you?
Marianne Williamson (MW): You know, spiritual exercise is like physical exercise. It doesn’t matter who you are. If you do it, it works. If you don’t do it, it doesn’t. It doesn’t matter who you are walking into the gym and it doesn’t matter who you are entering that sacred space of prayer and meditation and so forth.
I’m a student of A Course in Miracles, that doesn’t claim to have a monopoly on Truth. There is one Truth, with a capital “T”, spoken in many different ways. There are many different spiritual traditions and paths and also there is a lot of consciousness work these days that is done within a secular context, but it all has to do with cultivating a non-reactive mind. It has to do with the practice of compassion. It has to do with the practice of forgiveness. It has to do with taking responsibility for our own errors and atoning for them and making amends when we’ve been wrong. It has to do with dedicating ourselves to greater service and to something beyond our own personal goals.
You know, David, I say all the time, when I practice what I preach, my life really works well, and when I don’t practice what I preach, then things break down.
You know, there are objective discernible laws of external phenomenon and there are also objective, discernible laws of internal phenomenon. When I forgive, when I love, when I have compassion, when I discipline myself emotionally along those lines and proactively through medication, through the practice of the course, or whatever my practice is, repudiate and resist anger, defensiveness, fear, attack, judgement, blame, my life works well.
When I am so overtaken by the meaningless assault that is the borage of stimulus that forms modern culture today without preparing myself in meditation, in prayer, in spiritual inspiration and reading, then I fall into those same self-destructive patterns as anybody else does.
But, it’s like physical exercise. You never get to stop doing it and so I’m not an enlightened master, but on the days when I meditate and prepare myself and read my spiritual reading and really seek to be the best I can be on a moment-by-moment basis, then the chances of my really seriously blowing it are severely diminished and my chances of having a pretty happy life are greatly increased.
You know, I noticed when I asked you how you were and you said you were having a great day, best day, you know what you’re doing. You know that by saying that, you’re helping make it true.
DW: Mmmhmmm. I like the analogy you make because so many people are committed to their physical fitness and I love that you connect it to spiritual fitness. That’s inspired me a lot in that, I was like wow, you need to really meditate more and do some spiritual reading. A Course in Miracles, brilliant. Love. You turned me on to it all those years ago, like 20 years ago, so thank you for that.
You know what’s amazed me too, is there are so many incredible women out there that come to me. One of the gals from our conference actually had asked this question and that is, in spite of all the pressures, all the stuff to do, everything, there is still time for charity. A woman named Marilena had asked, “What is, in your opinion, what is the best cause, women’s cause to support right now? And what do you think the best thing for us to support in women’s issues today in the world is, charity wise, philanthropically, etc.?”
MW: Okay, well first of all, let’s have a deeper conversation about charity.
I have founded non-profits. I’ve founded “Project Angel Food” here in Los Angeles, a meals-on-wheels program that has served over 9 million meals to homebound people with AIDS and other life-changing illnesses, so it’s not like I’m not a non-profit charitable activist, because I am.
Having said that, it’s important for us to remember, that no amount of charity can compensate for a lack of social justice.
So when you look at this cause, or that cause, whether it has to do with health for women, battered women, economic opportunity for women or anything like that, it’s important, I think that we realize how many of these individual issues are the effect of a deeper cause and that deeper cause has to do with economic inequality in the United States, and that economic inequality in the United States is itself the effect of a deeper cause, which is the undo influence of money on our political system.
We have a system of legalized bribery in the United States, things have become so corrupt that the short-term economic gain of basically a few multi-national industries and corporations are placed before the health and well-being of the average citizen.
So, if you ask me, what is the single issue that would help women the most? It’s an issue that would help all men, women, and children the most, and that is a constitutional amendment that would establish public funding of federal elections in the United States because only when we have public funding of federal elections do we get the undo influence of money, where only a few billionaires can determine who wins our political elections and then who they serve because of it, and then you will have people actually making laws that provide, whether it has to do with healthcare, economic opportunity, the amount of money that women can make being equal to what men make for the same work, education, our young people being able to go to school without these crippling student debts, etc.
So to me, going always deeper: What’s the deeper cause? What’s the deeper cause? That on an external level is the deepest issue. We’ve got to get money out of politics or whether it has to do with carcinogens in our food, carcinogens in our air, or anything else, it won’t be good for women and it won’t be good for any other living creature.
In terms of internal and personal behavior, I think the most important thing that women can do is to support other women. To really be alert, really be consciously alert to the women to our left and to our right, who are just like us, trying to make their dreams come true, trying to make something happen, and who, like Ann Richards once pointed out that Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did but backwards and in high heels, once you do realize that not only economically, but in other ways as well, a woman has to work harder. She has some things stacked against her in certain ways and it really makes me sad when what is stopping a woman is another woman. So I think that for us to realize that when we talk about women’s empowerment, we have to include sisterhood in the conversation. Sisterhood. To me that’s really a significant issue.
DW: Brilliant. Thank you so much. Now, Marianne, can you spell out your website for us?
MW: Thank you. Marianne.com.
DW: Now, you’re going to be joining us at The Women’s Wellness Conference™. What’s going to be your topic? Can you give us a sneak peek, just briefly?
MW: Well, you know David, first of all I want to be there speaking and listening. You are hosting that day and from what I have read and what I have heard you said, you want ideas and conversations that empower women and help us reconnect with the truth of who we are, so that we can give as a gift to the world around us the truth of who we are.
You can’t give what you don’t have and you can’t have what you’re not aware of, and all of us have so much trapped light. We have so many hidden treasures that because of all these layers of falsehood and illusion, we sometimes don’t feel we have conscious access to. So that’s what I’m going to be talking about, a kind of organic unfoldment by which we can get in touch on a daily basis with the truth and the beauty of who we are, and then how we can walk through our lives in such a way that we are more consistently having that truth and beauty to the world around us. On a spiritual level, only what you give away can you keep, and learning how to give away our love, and to keep our love, is ultimately the only way to inner peace because it’s the only way to experience ourselves, I think, as God created us.
DW: Beautiful. Thank you so much, Marianne. For everyone listening, this is Marianne Williamson we’ve been listening to. I’m David “Avocado” Wolfe. We’re going to be together at The Women’s Wellness Conference™ www.womenswellnessconference.com Friday, October 9th – Sunday, October 11th at The Hilton Orange County Costa Mesa. That’s this year, 2015, coming up very quickly. From both of us, both myself and Marianne, we are wishing all of you the best day ever and we hope to see you at the event. Thanks so much!