Check out this exclusive interview with superfood expert, author, lecturer, and host of the upcoming Women’s Wellness Conference™, David Wolfe, and discover:
- David’s top-secret superplant that can be used as a potent weapon against seasonal allergies.
- The truth about cigarette companies that have turned one of nature’s most mineral-rich plants into a delivery system for toxic chemicals and deadly poisons.
- David Wolfe’s favorite plant to grow and it’s unique properties that will definitely surprise you!
Transcript of “Nature’s Secret Weapon Against Seasonal Allergies”
Lucien Gauthier (LG): Welcome everyone, this is your host Lucien Gauthier, and I am here with David “Avocado” Wolfe.
David, you’ve launched your new blog and it’s getting a lot of traction. Hundreds of thousands of people are now reading these very interesting articles that you’re putting together. One of them called, “This Ancient Plant Time Traveled 32,000 years to Bring Us Flowers” is getting a lot of traction. A lot of people have read it, and we thought it would be great to share with our listeners some of the insights and stories that you have about this amazing plant.
David “Avocado” Wolfe (DW): This is my 9th generation of growing it here in Ontario, Canada, and I was showing my friends this plant. I took them out there in the middle of the night, and then showed them it in the middle of the day, showed them it on a super hot day, and they were blown away.
So, I was able to take all of that and throw that into an article and put that on the blog site, which is really cool. It’s really fun to kind of share it a different way with pictures and text and video.
LG: And, for those of you wondering what plant that David and I are talking about, this plant is one of his favorite to grow: It is tobacco.
David, there are so many misconceptions about tobacco, of course the main one being smoking tobacco kills you, gives you lung cancer. For some of the people listening, let’s kind of demystify tobacco as a plant and draw a distinction between cigarettes and tobacco because those are actually completely two different things.
DW: There was a doctor, a Canadian doctor actually, and I do have the book with all his information in it. I found it in Winnipeg. It’s in this house somewhere. It’s a really cool book. He got kind of side-tracked from his own medical career, and he started having a kind of understanding that it was cigarettes that were causing cancer, not tobacco. So he eventually found out that he was right. It’s actually all the burn agents and chemicals and flavoring agents and god knows what else – the stems, the unusable parts, the chemicals and pesticides that are used to grow tobacco – and then he found that with traditional cigars there was no change in cancer rates whatsoever.
You see this in the Amazon. It’s very obvious because you’ll see Amazonian shaman that are 80 and 90 and 100-years-old and they are smoking tobacco every day, and they have been since they were 12-years-old.
You start to see, “Okay, it’s not the smoking that’s killing you. It’s the chemicals that are in it all”.
Let me just tell you this little story: I got into growing tobacco because one of my employees years ago, back in the old Nature’s First Law, he brought me to Mayan Nicotiana Tobacco, which is very similar to the smoking tobacco that people are smoking most of the time. It’s the same species.
I grew them on each side of the door, the front door when you walk in, so that they’d get some direct sunlight because they really didn’t do that well as indoor plants. Eventually, they seeded and they formed seed pods and I saved those seeds.
Then when I went to Hawaii, and got that place, and started Noniland, I took those seeds and just started playing around and started growing it. That was the same year I started growing it up here as well in Ontario nine years ago.
I just have a green thumb for it because tobacco are heavy feeders, so I like throwing everything – sea salt, rock dust, charcoal, all different kinds of mycelium, you know, peat moss, coconut peat – just all of that stuff is how I grow cacao, and that’s also what tobacco likes.
Now, interestingly, the guy who started American Spirit Tobacco originally, way back in the beginning, his conclusion about the tobacco industry is there is nothing out there that you actually should be smoking, even if it says it’s organic. The only thing that’s left for us today based on the chemicals used, the processing, all of it, is to grow your own. I thought that was very interesting.
He wrote a book called Tobacco Cultivation, which is a classic in the field because it’s all kinds of people from all eras of time.
Tobacco likes a sandy, silty, high organic content, almost clay-like soil. So, it likes a mix of clay and sand essentially, which is kind of what I kind of stumbled into, but to see it said 200 years ago by dudes growing tobacco in like, Central England. It was pretty cool to have that verified.
LG: It’s still surprising to me Dave, to this day, many people don’t know that cigarette smoke contains over 4,000 chemicals and among them there are 43 known catalogued, well-researched, cancer-causing compounds. It also contains formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and if you can believe it, DDT.
So, obviously these things weren’t around in the ancient times and tobacco was used amongst shamans and people of indigenous cultures.
What was the deal there? What was going on when people used tobacco before all these chemicals were introduced?
DW: Well, tobacco is a very powerful medicinal plant. My friend Russell, who is trained as an Amazonian shaman, one of the most dedicated people I know in the field of plant medicine, one day turned to me and said, “We’ve got to correct this tobacco debacle.”
What people think tobacco is, versus what it is, is the exact opposite.
So anyway, that’s what’s going on with tobacco. Let’s talk about some of the medicinal effects.
One of the medicinal effects about tobacco is it’s a very powerful anti-allergen and anti-insect bite. It’s anti-inflammatory, especially topically.
So, say for example, you got a really bad bee sting or wasp sting or hornet or something like that, something that’s pretty vicious, ant, what do you do? You take crushed up tobacco leaves and you just rub it right into your skin and it will neutralize that bite so fast it will turn your head!
Another important use of tobacco is tobacco as an anti-allergen. This is what I got through my experience with Amazonian shamanism, going to the jungle in Peru and that whole world. You can take tobacco leaf and powder it up into a very, very fine powder and then they blow it into your nose, and it just stops allergies. This is something I have dealt with since puberty. As soon as I hit puberty, all of a sudden I started having allergies to pollens.
That’s called a rapé, by the way, when they blow the tobacco up your nose. It just stops it. I don’t have it. I don’t have any allergy because tobacco is a very powerful anti-allergen.
What else can we say about tobacco?
Tobacco is a potentiator. That’s what nicotine is and nicotine dilates every cell in your body. In particular, the effect on us is it allows more blood flow into and out of your brain. That is the “tobacco rush” or the “tobacco high” and it has to do with vitamin B3.
You know, you’ve heard me say this before, but nicotine, nicotinamide, niacin and niacinamide, or vitamin B3 is basically chemically identical to nicotine. Nicotine hits the vitamin B3 receptor site, which is present on every living cell on earth. That to me is just a mind-bender right there.
So there is a whole thing going on there with the niacin pathway, that not only dilates cells, but it also has a very important role to play in energy production.
If you look into this, you’ll find out that there is a nicotine compound, I think it’s called NADH, the nicotine, adenosine, whatever the other part of it is, NADH I’m pretty sure is the name of it, which is like ATP production. It’s one of the most important things to produce energy in your body. That’s just such a mind-bender to see that the chemical is actually nicotine.
Tobacco is also, and this is confirmed by my friend Ramiz who did all the scientific lab research for my Chaga Book and many things that I’ve had him check out for me over the years…he came to me and he said he had done 120 different samples of hemp and cannabis from all over Canada and his conclusion was that it’s the highest mineral content land plant.
I said, “Well, no. Actually, tobacco is higher.”
I had him test it and he said, “You’re right. Tobacco is higher.”
So, I actually did get him on a couple things and that was one of them!
What is of interest there, and I think I mentioned this in an interview with us before, is that of all plants in the world cannabis and tobacco are the highest mineral content land plants.
LG: That’s actually unbelievable.
DW: Isn’t that unusual? I mean, I find that to be a very shocking coincidence. Just THOSE two, and you know, it goes on and on.
What I love about tobacco probably more than anything is the flowers. That’s the main reason why I grow it is because that’s what our bees use to pollenate. You’ve got to have some tobacco pollen going into your honey in order to potentiate it.
It’s non-toxic. It’s not a toxic pollen. There are toxic pollens and there are honeys that can actually have toxic effects on you, but tobacco is not one of those, and there are incredibly gorgeous flowering nicotianas of all different types, of which I grow about probably about 5 major different varieties at this point. You know, with subspecies in there, but 5 actual different types of tobacco; completely different species.
LG: So that explains why the tobacco companies use tobacco because basically it’s just a delivery system for driving in those addictive chemicals and stimulating chemicals in people’s brains and every cell of their body, for the very fact that it is a potentiator.
DW: Right there you just put your finger on why chemical tobacco is the most dangerous thing in the world.
There is nothing more dangerous than taking a bunch of chemicals and throwing like vitamin B3 on top of it.
Like, “Oh, let’s just flush your body, open every pore that exists in your whole organism, and we’ll drive the most toxic garbage right in! That sounds great!”
That’s what the chemical tobacco industry is. So, I’m definitely very much against all of that stuff, of course. But I’m not against tobacco as a plant. In fact, tobacco is a very important plant.
Another important thing about tobacco in THIS ecosystem in Ontario, Canada is that, I’ve got deer in the backyard. I’ve got deer all over this place. I mean, it is hard to keep them out.
Over the years, it’s taken me ten years to figure out how to naturally fence them out without putting in fences because I don’t want to put up a bunch of fences around here, you know, it’s in forest.
But there are things you can do that naturally interfere with their normal patterns of the way they come into your yard, which I’ve kind of learned over the years, and that’s been cool. The deer will not touch any place that has tobacco in it. Sometimes they’ll come and test it out and they get very sick from tobacco. Tobacco is a toxic plant, and then they leave everything else alone, and that’s how the Native Americans in North, Central, and South America farmed without fences for 10,000 years.
LG: I’m really fascinated to hear you go into this in more detail. I know when I went to Noniland I was really curious as to all the tobacco that was growing around there because I know you don’t smoke tobacco so I was like, “Well, what’s the deal with all this tobacco”? Then I saw you using it as natural pest control and I was really interested and it’s really fascinating to hear you go into more detail about this.
DW: Tobacco of all things! I mean, never in a million years would I have thought that would be my plant. I have a green thumb for tobacco like nobody in the world. I felt the calling and just followed it and it’s been very rewarding. I mean, it has brought me incredible varieties of tobacco. This tobacco variety, this one that came out of the tomb, what happened was…let me tell that whole story, it’s in my blog, but I just want to tell it because it’s so cool.
A friend of mine, he had a roommate, and her dad was involved in an archeological dig in Thunder Bay, Ontario and there they unearthed a tomb, a Native American tomb, and inside it was a cache of tobacco seeds. We were able to get a hold of some of those seeds, sprout them, and grow them, and we’ve been doing that here nine generations. So those seeds were 1,000 years old as estimated by that archeologist.
Right now, I’ve got the best selection I’ve ever had of that particular cultivar out in the garden. I can just go on and on about this because I’m so fascinated by it! After all these years, this is a 9th generation. This is 9 years of growing this plant.
This year, for some reason, there were 3 of them or 4 of them actually, that we were able to get sprouted early, right? Get them right into the garden at the right time, because, you know, we’re dealing with an obviously very powerful winter here and a very cold winter, and get it into the garden and get it going, and they’ve gotten to a stage of development that I’ve never seen before in all these years.
So they got bigger and when they got to that next stage bigger, they also produced a different type of leaf. They produced a different type of flower arrangement.
I’m just looking at this going, “How can this be after all these years? This is a completely different plant than I’ve never grown before, but it’s the same plant”. It’s just what was hiding in the genetics and I’m sure there is a lot more that I don’t know about.
LG: Alright, awesome. If you want to read this blog in full, you can check out davidwolfe.com, scroll down to the blog post entitled “This Ancient Plant Time Traveled 32,000 Years to Bring us Flowers“. It’s a really fascinating blog post filled with pictures and cool little stories and tidbits and facts. So, check that out at davidwolfe.com.
This is your host, Lucien Gauthier, signing off and we’re wishing you the best day ever!